So earlier you mentioned you have a band and you've been performing your hit single Safe to Say?
“Man, Safe to Say, one of the reasons for sure why Reasons got to put on Bel Air season two.“
Tell us about that episode.
“Yeah episode nine, and they put Reasons, they damn near the whole song was playing in it; it was a Jacuzzi scene with Coco Jones and yeah, just got was able to get that that deal. I'm just waiting to get that shit back so I can reinvest it into, you know, what I'm doing because I'm paying for all this shit myself. The garden video that I did for Safe to say that was all out of pocket, you know, everything been out of pocket and it's just like trying to balance that with life.”
Comes with the baggage.
'“Yeah, it comes with baggage. But that don't mean you should stop type shit. You know like that means you should just go harder, so these issues ain't ain't gonna be like that.”
The more you invest in yourself, the more return you get.
How did it feel to have your song on TV where millions of people watch the episode?
“That shit was crazy, man. Like the Shazam just fucking shot up. Like, I remember the first day I watched it, it was like 15,000 Shazam on the song. I was like, God damn bro, this shit crazy. Like people was just playing the fuck out of this shit. “I found you in Bel Air”, you know, it was just a lot bigger audiences and bigger platforms and I think I wouldn't have never got there… I wouldn't even think about that shit when I made reasons. I was just I was making a song about my girl like I was in love, you know what I'm saying? And I just wanted to make a song to show that. I think I'm like, reflecting like, Damn, that's all I was thinking about when I made this song and so much came from it. I think that's just a lesson to just keep being true to how I'm feeling and putting that into the music and not think about everything else. The release, how could it go? How can it be perceived? None of that. I don't think about none of that shit. I think you just really make your shit potent and intentional and it'll take you all takes place.”
Tell us about your new groovy single, N.L.S.
“I just don't want to put myself in a box you know? A lot of R&B singers fall into a trap, but not wanting to make music, you know, or they got to come out with a different alias or some shit. I want people to just realize I love making music and not just R&B. So that was me just really having fun with music again, you know, because sometimes when you just making R&B or making one style of music. That's what you expected to do. It's kind of like it becomes more of a job than just like something I want to do. So I make sure I squeeze in things that I actually want to do, you know, on top of it's really trying to evolve my sound in the R&B space, so yeah, N.L.S. came from that.”
What do you do outside of music?
“Dragon Ball, Always Dragon Ball.”
Dragon Ball FighterZ?
“Dragon Ball FighterZ that's it, That's it, bro. I will wake up play Dragon Ball on days when I don't feel like making music. I got it on my switch. I got it on my PC, I got it on my PlayStation, I got it on my Xbox.”
You’re really into it?
“They got in at headquarters, there's a bar down around here, they got it on the arcade stick and I signed in on it. So now I'll be playing online when I be going to the arcade bar, it's non stop bro. It's the Dragon Ball grind, bro. I skateboard too, shit, but I skate to go play dragon ball. I heard somebody tell me I'm when I'm passionate about something, I'm a little obsessed, I think that's true; I mean like it wouldn't be a passion then if you ain't obsessed with it.”
How would you rank yourself in Dragonball FighterZ against the whole world right now?
“Ranked in the world, I'm the best Dragon Ball FighterZ player in the world.”
Hands down?
“Hands down, Catch me on Twitch, catch me on the leaderboards. I'm the best top, I niggas to be ranked 999, Number one, Zeno. I got recordings of me beating their ass into the ground. Like, ain't nobody touching me. Niggas be like, Hey, man, I play dragon ball Fighterz. I was like, ight, He played me but he don’t playyy. You know what I'm saying? This is don't know what's up. But yeah, that's my game, bro. We gotta play.”
I gotta learn how to play again.
Oh, shit.
It's been some time. I'm on a Starfield right now.
“Oh, Starfield yeah, I'm fucking with that, I'm waiting for that new Warhammer. Warhammer 40,000. You heard about that, It’s like Third person?”
Something like that. I haven't played the old one.
So earlier this year you posted a photo of you shot by Raven saying Funeral and New Beginning; Is that a hint to a new project/new album?
“It's hinting to something, I don't know if I need to say right now, but I think it all unfold just how it needs to and I think that was that picture with Raven was the first thing that needed to be established. You know, I think when it comes to a funeral, A lot of people look at it as the death of something, but it's also a celebration, celebrating beginning new beginnings, change.
I've been going through a lot of change recently, so I think that was the perfect time to put that out and just really let people see what's going to happen next, you know, because the shit I got playing, the music I've been making is some shit I've never made before. I think I've been really challenging myself to just level to level up simply bro.”
Tell us about the homie Jeff, I see you always in his studio on the west side of Chicago creating all types of hours of the day.
Hell yeah man, it’s crazy bro because he ain't make music when I first met him. He used to just be playing Call of Duty in his room and shit, and now he got a whole ass studio. It's like, Damn, I remember I told him, you know, you just need to get on FL studio. You need to download it. He's like, I tried man, but it ain't my thing, Photography is my thing. Now look at this nigga, It was like, I think what it was he needed to get on the track. Like I told his ass to get on a Mr. Freeze and that was that was his first time getting on the track and so ever since then bro, he started buying all the equipment. He's like, I think I gave him a bug or some shit, bro. Like, nigga always, always been growing hella, he been growing hella. He did his first show and you know watched him performing and shit. It's like it's real kinda because like, just knowing where he came from, you know, this is my guy and just, I appreciate it his ass, his always been knew, through all types of shit. Just call his ass. I'm showing me just smoking, showing me some crazy ass new weed too. Just calling to check up on his ass, see what he's doing, you know, that's my guy for real.”
So what's next for you? You told me you're cooking something up later?
“Yeah, man, I got some new shit. I'm actually about to go to a video shoot right now. Got this next single coming out and this shit going to be different. It's going to be like nothing I ain't never dropped before.”
I'm excited to see.
Any messages you want to give out to any fans? Artists that are interested in R&B and Soul? Or not the living themselves. Any any type of genre of music. What type of advice would you give them?
“I think you started, you know, don't limit yourself to any genre of music because you can find beauty in all types of music elements. Even if it's something small, even if it's like one part from 52 seconds to 54 seconds, that shit be cold as hell, if you know what I'm saying. You know that it might inspire you, you know. I guess don't put your own self in a box with your music, taste preference or just even how you move through the world. You know, I think that you can only limit yourself when it really comes down to it because you're in charge of you.”
